Creativity and Generative AI | A. Prof Rachel Robertson & A. Prof Susanna Castleden

With the rapid rise of generative AI, what does this mean for the human side of creativity, art and culture?

In this episode, David Karsten is joined by Rachel Robertson and Susanna Castleden explore the intersection between generative AI and human creativity, and discuss the ways in which innovative projects can act to showcase the creative work of our human artists and writers.

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Book Mentioned:

Here Be Monsters: Is Technology Reducing Our Humanity? by Richard King (Monash University Publishing, 2023).

Article Reference:

Richard King's article 'The Defence' in Griffith Review, issue 81, 2023, pp20-28.

AI Carbon Footprint:

We're getting a better idea of AI's true carbon footprint, MIT Technology Review, 2022.

Human Rights Issues in AI Industry:

Open AI Used Kenyan Workers ... To Make ChatGPT Less Toxic, TIME, 2023.

Writers Response Project Anthologies:

Where the Ink Falls, edited by Rachel Robertson, published by John Curtin Gallery, 2022.

25 for 25: Curtin Writers Respond, edited by Rachel Robertson, published by John Curtin Gallery, 2023. Available in hard copy at the John Curtin Gallery, and available soon on Issuu.

Podcast Links:

Explore more episodes on creativity and generative AI: Word & Image Podcast.

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Rachel Robertson

Associate Professor, Curtin School of Media, Creative Arts and Social Inquiry

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Associate Professor Rachel Robertson teaches and supervises in Professional Writing and Publishing and Creative Writing in the School of Media, Creative Arts and Social Inquiry at Curtin University. She has a BA (Honours) and MPhil from UWA and a PhD from Curtin University. Her memoir, Reaching One Thousand: a story of love, motherhood and autism, was published by Black Inc in 2012 and re-issued in 2018. She is editor or co-editor of seven other scholarly or creative books including recent titles Where the Ink Falls (2022) and 25 for 25 (2023). Her creative nonfiction and essays have been published in outlets such as Griffith Review, Island, Best Australian Essays, Australian Book Review and Westerly.

Susanna Castleden

Associate Professor in the School of Media, Creative Arts and Social Inquiry; Dean of Research in the Faculty of Humanities

As Dean of Research in the Faculty of Humanities at Curtin University, Susanna is responsible for supporting and promoting researchers in the School of Education, the School of Media Creative Arts and Social Inquiry, and the School of Design and Built Environment. 

Susanna is a multi-award-winning artist and educator and has exhibited continuously throughout her career. She has participated over 30 solo and group exhibitions, and her artworks are held in more than 20 major collections across Australia, including the National Gallery of Australia and The Art Gallery of WA.  Susanna’s creative practice, predominantly in printmaking and drawing, includes large-scale projects that bring together ideas of mobility and proximity, often seeking to reveal alternate ways of encountering and understanding movement. 


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Host: David Karsten

Content creator: Yvette Tulloch

Producer and Recordist: Emilia Jolakoska

Social Media: Amy Hosking

Executive Producers: Anita Shore and Matthew Sykes

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